Okay, this is guild drama and it’s inappropriate to bring it over here. But I figure there’s a lesson that should be told from what happened.
At 10:34AM Aman’Thul server time today, someone /gquit.
He’s a shaman, an alt of one of our rogue raiders. Apparently, he was asking if anyone was interested in heroic farming but nobody wanted to go. After a moment of not getting a favorable reply, this happened:

- he meant “unappreciative”

- he meant “mains”
If you will allow me, I’m gonna read the title of the post again for emphasis ~
A RAIDING GUILD IS NOT A LEVELING GUILD.
You can level alts, fine. But you CANNOT force anyone in the guild to run you. I don’t think that’s what our guild was there for to begin with.
You can raid with your alts, fine. AS LONG AS you are asked to by the raid leader or guild master.
You can farm heroics to gear up your alts too, that’s fine. But you CANNOT and SHOULD NOT force your guildies to take you on a heroic binge then /gquit if they don’t.
When this guildie left the guild, I just logged over from my priest to my warlock. I was gonna get some dusts from her. To be honest, I didn’t even pay attention to what he’s saying because I was just getting stuff done before I get back to bed coz I’m not feeling well and have slight fever. Hubby just needed something to level enchanting before he goes to work. We normally are not online at that time of the day. But when I saw the guy leave the guild, I had to trace back to what he said and let it sink in. I never even had an opportunity to say something back. In my mind though, too bad it’s another of those immature /gquitting… and at what, 7:30 in the morning?!? LOL
Hubby asked me what was going on and I was like, what’s goin on with what? That’s the only time I noticed the due has left the guild. Then I checked who’s online and noticed that there were only four (after the dude has /gquit) of us online.
Slowly, I felt “rage” building up inside me. Which reminds me btw, I hope I build up rage faster as a tank than I build up my rage in real life hehe
Now here’s my message to my guildie:
Dear Guildie,
It’s unfair for you to accuse the guild of being unappreciative in general only because no one wanted to do a heroic binge with you. It’s ok (in fact, nice of you) to help others level their alts but I’m under the impression that you did that voluntarily. Fine, it’s normal for you to expect others to help you back (in fact, that’s what should be done in the normal scheme of things), but I doubt if it’s a fair reason to leave the guild and refer to everyone in the guild as being unappreciative only because of that. You don’t know, in the same way that I don’t know, what our officers are doing to reach out to everyone’s whims so please, let’s spare the guild of such “unappreciative” accusation.
You can leave. I don’t care. Our guild master and the rest of the guild probably would, but to tell you a bitter truth about it, the raids will still go on.
Now here’s why I don’t think you were fair:
1) I hope you checked the time. That was 10:34AM server time. I don’t know where in outer space you are from but in my planet, it’s like 7:30AM. For all you know, people just woke up. Fine, you saw these people hanging around in the auction house. Does that fact make it fair for you to expect them to drop what they do for your heroic binge? I guess nope. Maybe people are just waiting for breakfast or a call or an important visitor that’s why they only do little things to fill up their time. All we can do is speculate and with that, YOU SHOULDN’T HAVE EXPECTED EVERYONE TO BE AS FREE AS YOU ARE OR EVEN LIKE WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO.
2) Again, let me emphasize the time. Would you even have gotten that fussy about it had you been able to get a group in LFG? I guess not. So it’s not the guild being unappreciative or something. It’s the FACT that you can’t get a group AT THAT FREAKING HOUR OF THE DAY. I’m sorry sweetie but not everyone is a WoW junkie like you are who breathes and lives for heroics or raids even before you have brushed your teeth in the morning. Some of us have a life, ya know.
3) Check out the people online. Did you notice how many people are there at the time you asked? Not everyone is online yet so you had a very little audience when you asked for a group. I’m sure had you asked at a different time of the day, you’d be able to get a guild run going. Oh wait, that will be too late now as you accused the guild of being unappreciative then left. And since you referred to the guild generally, that would include even people who weren’t online. That sucks. Apart from being absurd.
4) /Gquitting over that is the most immature thing to do. You can do that, have it your way. But still, that’s too immature of you. You should have known from the start that we are not a twink/leveling guild. We are a raiding guild. I’m sure raiding means more to you than it does for me, and I was expecting you to have even slightly considered that. So what now, I can force everyone to run my level 14 pally to Dead Mines then /gquit if guildies don’t? Or force everyone to run my level 72 death knight to Utgarde Keep then /gquit if I can’t get a group in the guild? Or force guildies to run me several times over in TOC just so that I can get a trinket that drops from there then /gquit if nobody thinks it’s worth their time?
THAT’S WAY TOO IMMATURE DUDE.
I have a lot of friends in the game who helped me and hubby’s toon get back when we fell behind. I’m aware of the fact that WoW essentially is a teamwork. And these friends, not for a bit, expected us to return the favor although we try.
I THINK WHAT YOU NEED IS REASON AND MATURITY.
Anyways, you have left the guild before and I’m not aware of the conditions for your return. If somehow you find yourself back to our guild again, I am hoping this would not happen again. And I am hoping that our guild officers will do something about this.
A good dps may be hard to replace but hey, EVERYONE in the game is DISPENSABLE. No one in this game should feel that it’s ok to play with guilds around (quit then come back, quit then come back, quit-then-bash-the-guild-then-come-back) just because he feels he is indispensable. The moment that someone feels that he is NOT dispensable in a guild is the very precise moment that he should be dispensed with.
TO HELL WITH ARROGANCE.
Sincerely,
Thella
P.S.
Last last night, you were asking what the cause of bad attendance or lack of interest in raids is. I’m just playing devil’s advocate in my mind and I’m thinking, what if that’s the real reason why you chose to leave the guild today?…. Whatever… I got better things to do
At the end of the day, the “angel” in me still pushes its way through and is forcing me to think otherwise. As I said, all we can do is speculate.
Maybe the dude just had a bad morning. He was cooperative to the guild as far as I know so maybe it’s his “other” person that took over earlier
We have fits like that too at one time or another (don’t deny!)
I guess the lesson I just wanted to say is that we should act with reason even in a loose social environment like a game called WoW.
